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The Rumour That Grew a Roof
Three ancient historians say what Nero did while Rome burned in AD 64, and all three have him sing; none says he played. Of the three, only Tacitus puts him at Antium when the fire began, and he gives the song as a rumour; Suetonius and Dio state it as fact and add a tower, a stage costume and a palace roof, and Dio’s account reaches us in a monk’s abridgment. The fiddle is English, and the popular debunk gets Tacitus wrong too.
Three witnesses, nine questions
This page reads three ancient narratives of the fire. Tacitus tells it in the Annals; Suetonius in his Life of Nero; and Dio in a book we read in the abridgment made in the eleventh century by Xiphilinus, a monk of Constantinople (For Books LXI–LXXX our chief authority is Xiphilinus
, as Cary puts it). They are not the only ones: Furneaux, after naming the writers who charged Nero with the fire, adds that a similar view is taken by the author of the ‘Octavia’ (831–833), and is followed by Orosius (7, 7); while Sulp. Severus (see on c. 40, 3) more closely follows Tacitus
. Pick a question. Each column lights the words that answer it, in the Latin or Greek with a public-domain English translation under it, and says how that writer holds it.
Who says what
Sang of Troy: Tacitus reports it as rumour; Suetonius and Dio state it as fact.
Tacitus
reports as rumourquae quamquam popularia in inritum cadebant, quia pervaserat rumor ipso tempore flagrantis urbis inisse eum domesticam scaenam et cecinisse Troianum excidium, praesentia mala vetustis cladibus adsimulantem.
These acts, though popular, produced no effect, since a rumour had gone forth everywhere that, at the very time when the city was in flames, the emperor appeared on a private stage and sang of the destruction of Troy, comparing present misfortunes with the calamities of antiquity.
Annals 15.39
Suetonius
states as factHalosin Ilii in illo suo scaenico habitu decantavit.
he sang the whole of the “Sack of Ilium,” in his regular stage costume.
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factᾖσεν ἅλωσιν, ὡς μὲν αὐτὸς ἔλεγεν, Ἰλίου, ὡς δὲ ἑωρᾶτο, Ῥώμης.
he sang the “Capture of Troy,” as he styled the song himself, though to the eyes of the spectators it was the Capture of Rome.
Dio 62.18.1
All nine at once, as the columns tag them:
| Question | Tacitus | Suetonius | Dio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Who set it | leaves open | states as fact | states as fact |
| At Antium | states as fact | silent here | silent here |
| Sang of Troy | reports as rumour | states as fact | states as fact |
| Where he sang | reports as rumour | states as fact | states as fact |
| What he wore | silent here | states as fact | states as fact |
| Played an instrument | silent here | silent here | silent here |
| How long it burned | states as fact | states as fact | states as fact |
| How much burned | states as fact | states as fact | states as fact |
| Blamed the Christians | states as fact | silent here | silent here |
- Tacitus: 4 stated as fact, 2 reported as rumour, 1 left open, 2 silent; 0 of the 3 details of the performance stated as fact.
- Suetonius: 6 stated as fact, 3 silent; 3 of the 3 details of the performance stated as fact.
- Dio: 6 stated as fact, 3 silent; 3 of the 3 details of the performance stated as fact.
Every answer in full: the nine questions, each with its words
Who set it
Tacitus
leaves openSequitur clades, forte an dolo principis incertum (nam utrumque auctores prodidere)
A disaster followed, whether accidental or treacherously contrived by the emperor, is uncertain, as authors have given both accounts
Annals 15.38
Suetonius
states as factincendit urbem tam palam
he set fire to the city so openly
Nero 38.1
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factλάθρᾳ γάρ τινας ὡς καὶ μεθύοντας ἢ καὶ κακουργοῦντάς τι ἄλλως διαπέμπων
Accordingly he secretly sent out men who pretended to be drunk or engaged in other kinds of mischief, and caused them at first to set fire to one or two or even several buildings in different parts of the city
Dio 62.16.2
At Antium
Tacitus
states as factEo in tempore Nero Antii agens non ante in urbem regressus est quam domui eius, qua Palatium et Maecenatis hortos continuaverat, ignis propinquaret.
Nero at this time was at Antium, and did not return to Rome until the fire approached his house, which he had built to connect the palace with the gardens of Mæcenas.
Annals 15.39
Suetonius
silent hereNero 38 never says where he was when the fire began; it has him watching from the tower of Maecenas.
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
silent hereThe epitome of 62.16-18 never mentions Antium; it has him in Rome, climbing to the top of the palace.
Sang of Troy
Tacitus
reports as rumourquae quamquam popularia in inritum cadebant, quia pervaserat rumor ipso tempore flagrantis urbis inisse eum domesticam scaenam et cecinisse Troianum excidium, praesentia mala vetustis cladibus adsimulantem.
These acts, though popular, produced no effect, since a rumour had gone forth everywhere that, at the very time when the city was in flames, the emperor appeared on a private stage and sang of the destruction of Troy, comparing present misfortunes with the calamities of antiquity.
Annals 15.39
Suetonius
states as factHalosin Ilii in illo suo scaenico habitu decantavit.
he sang the whole of the “Sack of Ilium,” in his regular stage costume.
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factᾖσεν ἅλωσιν, ὡς μὲν αὐτὸς ἔλεγεν, Ἰλίου, ὡς δὲ ἑωρᾶτο, Ῥώμης.
he sang the “Capture of Troy,” as he styled the song himself, though to the eyes of the spectators it was the Capture of Rome.
Dio 62.18.1
Where he sang
Tacitus
reports as rumourpervaserat rumor ipso tempore flagrantis urbis inisse eum domesticam scaenam
a rumour had gone forth everywhere that, at the very time when the city was in flames, the emperor appeared on a private stage
Annals 15.39
Suetonius
states as factHoc incendium e turre Maecenatiana prospectans
Viewing the conflagration from the tower of Maecenas
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factὁ Νέρων ἔς τε τὸ ἄκρον τοῦ παλατίου
Nero ascended to the roof of the palace
Dio 62.18.1
What he wore
Tacitus
silent hereNo costume for the song. The only costume of Nero's in these chapters is the charioteer's dress he wore at his games after the fire (15.44).
habitu aurigae permixtus plebi vel curriculo insistens
he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car
Annals 15.44
Suetonius
states as factin illo suo scaenico habitu
in his regular stage costume
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factτὴν σκευὴν τὴν κιθαρῳδικὴν λαβὼν
assuming the lyre-player’s garb
Dio 62.18.1
Played an instrument
Tacitus
silent hereNo instrument. The verb takes the song as its object, and Church and Brodribb render it sang.
cecinisse Troianum excidium
sang of the destruction of Troy
Annals 15.39
Suetonius
silent hereNo instrument. The verb takes the song as its object, and Rolfe renders it sang.
decantavit
he sang the whole of the
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
silent hereNo act of playing; he sang. The nearest thing to an instrument in any of the three is this: the citharode's gear, which Cary renders garb.
τὴν σκευὴν τὴν κιθαρῳδικὴν λαβὼν
assuming the lyre-player’s garb
Dio 62.18.1
How long it burned
Tacitus
states as factSexto demum die apud imas Esquilias finis incendio factus
At last, after five days, an end was put to the conflagration at the foot of the Esquiline hill
Annals 15.40
rursum grassatus ignis patulis magis urbis locis
But before people had laid aside their fears, the flames returned
Annals 15.40
Suetonius
states as factPer sex dies septemque noctes ea clade saevitum est
For six days and seven nights destruction raged
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factἐπὶ πλείους καὶ ἡμέρας καὶ νύκτας
it lasted for several days and nights alike
Dio 62.17.1
How much burned
Tacitus
states as factquippe in regiones quattuordecim Roma dividitur, quarum quattuor integrae manebant, tres solo tenus deiectae: septem reliquis pauca tectorum vestigia supererant, lacera et semusta.
Rome, indeed, is divided into fourteen districts, four of which remained uninjured, three were levelled to the ground, while in the other seven were left only a few shattered, half-burnt relics of houses.
Annals 15.40
Suetonius
states as factpraeter immensum numerum insularum domus priscorum ducum arserunt
besides an immense number of dwellings, the houses of leaders of old were burned
Nero 38.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
states as factτῆς τε λοιπῆς πόλεως τὰ δύο που μέρη ἐκαύθη
nearly two-thirds of the remainder of the city were burned
Dio 62.18.2
Blamed the Christians
Tacitus
states as factergo abolendo rumori Nero subdidit reos et quaesitissimis poenis adfecit quos per flagitia invisos vulgus Christianos appellabat.
Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace.
Annals 15.44
Suetonius
silent hereNot for the fire. Nero 16.2 lists the punishment of Christians among his measures and does not connect it with the fire.
afflicti suppliciis Christiani, genus hominum superstitionis novae ac maleficae
Punishment was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition.
Nero 16.2
Dio, in Xiphilinus’s epitome
silent hereThe epitome of 62.16-18 does not mention them.
Read down the columns. The earliest writer, Tacitus, keeps the cause open, puts Nero at Antium, and gives the song, and the stage it was sung on, as rumour. The two later writers state as fact every detail of the performance, where he stood, what he wore and what he sang, which Tacitus either reports as rumour or does not give. Furneaux’s commentary on the Annals, read here in the second edition revised by Pelham and Fisher (1907), puts it in one line: Suet. (Ner. 38) and Dio (62. 18, 1), who affirm as a fact what Tacitus here gives as a rumour
. On the cause he wrote: We owe it to Tacitus that any doubt is left on the subject.
He adds that Tacitus himself at least inclines to charge Nero with the second outbreak (c. 40, 3)
.
Two cells need a closer look. Dio’s roof first. The Greek is ὁ Νέρων ἔς τε τὸ ἄκρον τοῦ παλατίου
, which Cary renders Nero ascended to the roof of the palace
, and his note on it reads τοῦ παλατίου R. Steph., τὰ παλάτια VC.
. The note’s first words, τοῦ παλατίου, of the palace, are the reading printed by R. Stephanus; where they stand, the two manuscripts V and C have τὰ παλάτια. So the top, τὸ ἄκρον, which Cary renders roof, is in the manuscripts; what differs is the form of the word for palace. Second, how long it burned: Church and Brodribb print At last, after five days, an end was put to the conflagration at the foot of the Esquiline hill
where the Latin has sexto, sixth (this page’s gloss): Sexto demum die apud imas Esquilias finis incendio factus
.
Two dismissals, one ladder
There are two quick ways to dismiss the story, and they point in opposite directions. One says: Nero was at Antium, so it is a myth. The other says: three historians agree, so it happened. Both treat the three accounts as equal witnesses standing side by side. They are not. Here each stands where it belongs, by when it was written and by how it reaches us.
The chain of copies
AD 115 or 116: Tacitus, Annals. 51 or 52 years after the fire; the song reported as rumour.
- AD 64 The fire. Some, Tacitus says, noted the day it began:
fuere qui adnotarent xiiii Kal. Sextilis principium incendii huius ortum
(Some persons observed that the beginning of this conflagration was on the 19th of July
). The year of the fire. - Before AD 79 Pliny the Elder, Natural History. Pliny mentions Nero’s fires in passing; the three editions are below. He died in the eruption of Vesuvius, which Cary’s margin to Dio dates A.D. 79. Within 15 years of the fire.
- AD 115 or 116 Tacitus, Annals. Furneaux:
The date of completion and publication of his various works rests on internal evidence.
And:This last work must have been completed when the conquests of Trajan had reached their highest point, in 868 or 869, A.D. 115 or 116
. 51 or 52 years after the fire. - AD 120 Suetonius, Lives of the Caesars. Rolfe: the Lives of the Caesars,
published in 120
. 56 years after the fire. - AD 200 to 222 Dio, Roman History. Cary, from Dio’s own account of his years of work:
The period of these labours may be roughly estimated as the years 200–222.
136 to 158 years after the fire. - The ninth century Oldest copy of Suetonius. Rolfe on Suetonius’s manuscripts:
The codex Memmianus of the ninth century. Our oldest and best manuscript
. No year given, only the century. - The latter half of the eleventh century Oldest copy of Tacitus, Annals 11-16. Furneaux: the second Medicean manuscript,
a manuscript in Lombard characters, generally assigned to the latter half of the eleventh century
, whichcontains all that we have of these later Books of the Annals
. Of the other copies:Many other manuscripts of this portion of the works of Tacitus exist, but none of them can claim any earlier date than the middle of the 15th century.
The theory that they come from another old manuscripthas been adopted by some editors, notably by Walther
. Furneaux goes on:Recent editors, however, have generally held that all the other MSS. are ultimately derived from the Medicean
. No year given, only the century. - AD 1071 to 1078 Xiphilinus abridges Dio. Cary:
For Books LXI–LXXX our chief authority is Xiphilinus
,Xiphilinus, a monk of Constantinople, who made an abridgment of Books XXXVI–LXXX at the request of the emperor Michael VII. Ducas (1071–78)
;his task was very carelessly performed
. Epitomes like his, Cary adds,while they often repeat entire sentences of Dio verbatim, or nearly so (as may readily be seen by comparing extant portions of the histories with Zonaras or Xiphilinus), must, nevertheless, be regarded as essentially paraphrases
. Cary prints the chapters on the fire under the running head EPITOME OF BOOK LXII and ends themXiph. 166, 17–169, 10 R. St.
. 1007 to 1014 years after the fire. - The fifteenth century The two manuscripts the other copies derive from. Cary: of the epitome’s manuscripts,
all the rest are derived from one or the other of two fifteenth century Mss., Vaticanus 145 and Coislinianus 320
. No year given, only the century. - AD 1551 First printed edition of the epitome. Cary’s list of editions:
1551 R. Stephanus. Editio princeps of Xiphilinus.
Cary prints his reading of the word for palace, not the manuscripts’; the note:τοῦ παλατίου R. Steph., τὰ παλάτια VC.
1487 years after the fire.
Read against the ladder, the agreement of the three is not three witnesses agreeing. The nearest of the three to the fire calls the song a rumour. The two who make it fact wrote later, and the latest, with the people leaping into the flames, the citharode’s gear and the palace roof, comes to us through an eleventh-century abridgment. Gainsford, who defends the story as ancient, still says: Cassius Dio can’t be regarded as independent of the earlier two.
The alibi covers the start
The other dismissal, that Nero was at Antium, is Tacitus’s own clause, and it is true of the start: Eo in tempore Nero Antii agens non ante in urbem regressus est quam domui eius, qua Palatium et Maecenatis hortos continuaverat, ignis propinquaret.
(Nero at this time was at Antium, and did not return to Rome until the fire approached his house, which he had built to connect the palace with the gardens of Mæcenas.
). The same sentence brings him back while the city burned, and the next one says what happened then: neque tamen sisti potuit quin et Palatium et domus et cuncta circum haurirentur.
(It could not, however, be stopped from devouring the palace, the house, and everything around it.
)
The days of the fire
Tacitus: the first phase ends on day 6 (sexto demum die), then the fire breaks out again for a time he does not give. Suetonius: 6 days and 7 nights. Nero: at Antium on day 1; back on a day Tacitus does not give, as the fire neared his house.
It began, Tacitus says, on a day some people noted: fuere qui adnotarent xiiii Kal. Sextilis principium incendii huius ortum
. Counting a.d. XIIII Kal. Sextiles back from the first of August, both ends counted, gives the 19th of July, which is what Church and Brodribb print: Some persons observed that the beginning of this conflagration was on the 19th of July
. The first phase ended Sexto demum die apud imas Esquilias finis incendio factus
, and then rursum grassatus ignis patulis magis urbis locis
: But before people had laid aside their fears, the flames returned
. Tacitus gives no length for that second outbreak. Suetonius gives For six days and seven nights destruction raged
.
A stone gives a total. Domitian dedicated a fire-altar and the precinct around it, and one of the stones that marked out the precinct (Dessau’s ILS 4914) says the vow was made quando urbs per novem dies arsit Neronianis temporibus
, when the city burned for nine days in Nero’s time (this page’s translation). Dessau notes that this stone was semel descripta
, copied once, and that Similes lapides etiam in aliis urbis partibus fuisse videntur
, that is, similar stones seem to have stood in other parts of the city (this page’s translation). Furneaux calls it a votive inscription, not now extant
. Dessau ties its nine days to Tacitus’s second outbreak: Scilicet cum ‘sexto die finis incendio factus’ esset, mox denuo erupit
. Nipperdey, Furneaux reports, reconciled the two by supposing that the second outbreak, here mentioned by Tacitus, lasted three days
: 9 − 6 = 3. That is a supposition, and the page draws it as one.
So the alibi holds for the beginning and no further. By Tacitus’s account Nero came back while the fire was still advancing on his house; it then consumed the house, and it burned on, to the sixth day and then again. On which day he came back, Tacitus does not say.
The debunk, checked
Pages written to correct the story make claims of their own about the sources. Here are seven sentences from three of them, History.com, Live Science and The Phrase Finder, each beside the words it describes. Open one.
a great fire ravaged Rome for six days
one count of severalHistory.com, History Staff, published 20 November 2012, last updated 28 May 2025
Suetonius: Per sex dies septemque noctes ea clade saevitum est
(For six days and seven nights destruction raged
). Tacitus: the first phase ended Sexto demum die apud imas Esquilias finis incendio factus
, and then rursum grassatus ignis patulis magis urbis locis
, for a time he does not give. The stone: quando urbs per novem dies arsit Neronianis temporibus
, nine days. Six is one of the counts.
The Roman historian Tacitus wrote that Nero was rumored to have sung about the destruction of Rome while watching the city burn
does not matchHistory.com, History Staff, published 20 November 2012, last updated 28 May 2025
Tacitus: quae quamquam popularia in inritum cadebant, quia pervaserat rumor ipso tempore flagrantis urbis inisse eum domesticam scaenam et cecinisse Troianum excidium, praesentia mala vetustis cladibus adsimulantem.
(These acts, though popular, produced no effect, since a rumour had gone forth everywhere that, at the very time when the city was in flames, the emperor appeared on a private stage and sang of the destruction of Troy, comparing present misfortunes with the calamities of antiquity.
). The rumour is of a song about Troy, sung on a private stage. It is Dio, writing later, whose onlookers took the song for the capture of Rome.
however, he stated clearly that this was unconfirmed by eyewitness accounts
does not matchHistory.com, History Staff, published 20 November 2012, last updated 28 May 2025
Tacitus calls it a rumour and moves on. His chapters on the fire have no word for a witness, in the Latin or in Church and Brodribb’s English; the checker searches both. Gainsford made the point in 2017: Nor does he ‘state clearly’ that it was unconfirmed.
Though he immediately returned and began relief measures
does not matchHistory.com, History Staff, published 20 November 2012, last updated 28 May 2025
Tacitus: Eo in tempore Nero Antii agens non ante in urbem regressus est quam domui eius, qua Palatium et Maecenatis hortos continuaverat, ignis propinquaret.
(Nero at this time was at Antium, and did not return to Rome until the fire approached his house, which he had built to connect the palace with the gardens of Mæcenas.
) The relief is in the same chapter: sed solacium populo exturbato ac profugo campum Martis ac monumenta Agrippae, hortos quin etiam suos patefecit et subitaria aedificia extruxit quae multitudinem inopem acciperent
(However, to relieve the people, driven out homeless as they were, he threw open to them the Campus Martius and the public buildings of Agrippa, and even his own gardens, and raised temporary structures to receive the destitute multitude.
) So the relief matches; the word immediately does not.
Nero raced back to Rome.
does not matchLive Science, Charles Q. Choi, 10 September 2022
The same sentence of Tacitus: Nero at this time was at Antium, and did not return to Rome until the fire approached his house, which he had built to connect the palace with the gardens of Mæcenas.
Tacitus gives when he came back, not how fast: there is no haste in his words, only the time, as the fire approached his house.
he watched it from a tower while playing an instrument and singing about the destruction of Troy
does not matchThe Phrase Finder, Gary Martin, last updated 21 May 2026
Suetonius: Halosin Ilii in illo suo scaenico habitu decantavit.
(he sang the whole of the “Sack of Ilium,” in his regular stage costume.
). He sings, in costume; no instrument is named, in Latin or in English.
Nero himself blamed the Christians (then an obscure religious sect) for the fire
matchesHistory.com, History Staff, published 20 November 2012, last updated 28 May 2025
Tacitus: ergo abolendo rumori Nero subdidit reos et quaesitissimis poenis adfecit quos per flagitia invisos vulgus Christianos appellabat.
(Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace.
). Of the three, only Tacitus ties the punishment to the fire. Suetonius lists it among Nero’s measures in another chapter and does not connect it with the fire, and the epitome of Dio’s chapters on the fire does not mention it.
Of these 7 sentences, 1 matches the ancient text, 1 gives one count of several, and 5 do not match it.
By this page’s reading, three of the five slips run in Nero’s favour: he hurried back, in two of them, when Tacitus says he did not come back until the fire approached his house; and Tacitus doubted the rumour, when he only reports it. Two run against him: a song about Rome, when Tacitus says Troy; and an instrument in Suetonius, who gives him none.
An earlier witness, in three editions
One writer is earlier than all three. Pliny the Elder died in the eruption of Vesuvius: his nephew’s letter giving an account of my uncle's death
says of the cloud that it was found afterwards to come from Mount Vesuvius
, and Cary’s margin to Dio dates the eruption A.D. 79. In the Natural History Pliny tells how long the lotus trees at the orator Crassus’s house lived: until Nero’s fires. Whether he adds that Nero burned the city depends on the edition you open.
Natural History 17.5, three editors
Jan prints the clause in the text.
ad Neronis principis incendia quibus cremavit urbem, annis CLXXX postea cultu virides iuvenesque, ni princeps ille accelerasset etiam arborum mortem.
Jan, Teubner, vol. III, p. 46 (title page dated 1878)
ad Neronis principis incendia cultu virides iuvenesque, ni princeps ille adcelerasset etiam arborum mortem.
His note at the foot of the page: 26 incendia D. incendia quibus cremauit urbem annis (clxxx add. v) postea ll. v.
Mayhoff, Teubner, vol. III, p. 66 (1892)
Rackham prints the clause in square brackets, [quibus cremavit urbem annis postea]
, with the note Secl. Detlefsen.
Rackham, Loeb, vol. V, p. 4 (first printed 1950; the scan read is the 1961 reprint); in copyright, so quoted only in these words
The clause is quibus cremavit urbem, by which he burned the city (this page’s translation). Bostock and Riley’s English of 1855 follows a text that has it: they were in existence down to the period when the Emperor Nero set fire to the City, one hundred and eighty years after the time of Crassus
. Furneaux’s commentary quotes it too: Pliny also (N. H. 17. 1, 1, 5) speaks of ‘Neronis principis incendia quibus cremavit urbem’
. This page does not judge between the editors; it shows what each one printed, read from the page images. This page did not read Mayhoff’s introduction, so it does not say what the D and v of his note stand for.
Where the fiddle came from
Barrett, who traced the English phrase in 2021, starts from this: The image of Nero actually playing an instrument during the Great Fire is not, in fact, found in ancient sources
. Gainsford reads Dio the other way: in his rendering Nero put on his gear for kithara performances
, and he writes, We have to substitute an ancient concert kithara for the modern violin
. The instrument arrives in English, and it changes on the way. Each entry says whether its words were read here in a printed text, read in a modern text, or only reported.
- reported by Barrett, not read here Cooper’s dictionary, 1548. Barrett: the first English reference is in Cooper’s revision of Elyot’s Latin–English dictionary,
where Nero is said to play a harp during the conflagration
. The instrument: a harp. - read here in a modern text Henry VI, Part 1, act 1, scene 4. Gainsford dates the play
Henry VI part 1 (ca. 1591-1595)
. Talbot, over the dying Salisbury:Plantagenet, I will; and, like thee, Nero,
The instrument: a lute.
Play on the lute, beholding the towns burn. - read here in print The Tragedy of Nero, printed 1624, act 3, scene 3. At the theatre, not at the fire: Petronius has seen Nero
In Mynstrills habit stand before the Iudges
, and Seneca answers,I have a Fidler heard him, let me not
. Bullen’s note on the first word reads
See him a Player4to. I'd.
: the quarto has I’d. A fiddler on the stage, as an insult. - read here in print The same play, scene 4: the fire.
Soft Musique. Enter Nero above alone with a Timbrell.
Nero speaks:I, now my Troy lookes beautious in her flames;
The instrument at the fire: a timbrel. - reported by Barrett, not read here George Daniel, Trinarchodia. Barrett:
In 1649 the royalist poet George Daniel applied the term ‘fiddle’
, citingTrinarchodia. The Several Reigns of Richard II, of Henry IV and of Henry V (London, 1649)
. The line was not read here. Grosart’s edition of Daniel’s poems, printed in 1878, says on its title page that it is edited fromThe Original MSS. in the British Museum: HITHERTO UNPRINTED.
- read here in print Silas Titus, House of Commons,
The 17th of November, 1680.
Arguing that the House should not take up the state of Tangier:we may be reflected on, as Nero was, for being playing on his Fiddle when Rome was on Fire.
Printed in A Collection of Debates in 1725. Barrett says the familiar formwas apparently coined in a 1680 English parliamentary speech by Silius Titus
; the print spells him Silas.
The first wording read here that puts a fiddle in Nero’s hands while Rome burns is therefore the speech of 1680, as printed in 1725. The phrase, in its exact form or near it, keeps being found earlier, which is why every earliest is only the earliest found so far: Gainsford, in 2017, said a speech of 1820 was what this appears to be the earliest occurrence of the exact phrasing, ‘Nero fiddled while Rome burned’
; Barrett, in 2021, quotes the preface of The Noble Cricketers of 1778, That Nero fiddled while Rome burned.
; and Tréguer, in 2026, gives as the earliest allusive use he had found a near form, from The Public Advertiser of 15 March 1770: Nero fiddled whilst Rome was burning.
None of those three was read here.
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